06:05PM [DECTS()] Hiya, you around? [Simba] Yes. 06:09PM [DECTS()] Oh, good. 06:09PM [DECTS()] You know Polybun? [Simba] Not in person, no. 06:10PM [DECTS()] Naturally. [Simba] I've been meaning to go hang out with him and go hiking and stuff, though. 06:10PM [DECTS()] If enough people complain about him, would you ban him from the network? [Simba] Absolutely not 06:11PM [DECTS()] What about 100 reports against him with solid evidence supporting my notice of harassment? [Simba] This network is founded on the idea behind freedom of speech and the idea that users have enough access to mitigate their own interpersonal conflicts. 06:12PM [DECTS()] Freedom of speach, yes. 06:12PM [DECTS()] What do you think of people who harass others? [Simba] harrassment is mitigated by the use of the mental function of ignoring someone, or the technical fucntions which help with the same. [Simba] I think they are utilizing their freedom of speech. 06:12PM [DECTS()] I've finally figured out how to ignore him. 06:12PM [DECTS()] My IRC client doesn't ignore him for some reason. [Simba] d'oh 06:13PM [DECTS()] You can see chatlogs for channels, yes? [Simba] Only ones that I'm in. 06:13PM [DECTS()] Gah 06:13PM [DECTS()] I have to go find my logs then. [Simba] The easiest way to ignore someone is to not respond to them, regardless of whether or not your client has an adequate ignore function. 06:15PM [DECTS()] - links to log files - 06:15PM [DECTS()] Before the logs for Polybun: 06:15PM [DECTS()] >Polybun< Please note that you have been removed due to previous behavioral issues. You will not be permitted to rejoin. 06:21PM [DECTS()] So, thoughts? [Simba] Haha... He's not an Amateur Extra. He's a General. 06:24PM [DECTS()] He lies again? [Simba] Well, it's only one step down from Extra. 06:25PM * DECTS shrugs [Simba] He can transcribe more code than I can, though, and I'm an Extra. 06:25PM [DECTS()] Either way, he's saying I know nothing, and he knows a lot more. [Simba] Eh... he has a right to think whatever he wants. 06:26PM [DECTS()] So, if/when you see him, give'im a hard whack on the head from me. 06:26PM [DECTS()] Since I'm not there. [Simba] Why do you put any stock into it? Is he a friend of yours? Do you know him? 06:26PM [DECTS()] No one that does that is a friend of mine. [Simba] Then why are you letting it matter? 06:27PM [DECTS()] Do you know how much he does? [Simba] Most of the things that he said about himself are true. [Simba] Maybe embellished a little. 06:27PM [DECTS()] A little. 06:27PM [DECTS()] I don't want any. 06:27PM [DECTS()] I want exactly what he is, but in such a way that he's not bragging. 06:28PM [DECTS()] Since this coversation started: 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets mode +i #TheListeningBrook 06:28PM [DECTS()] Usage: IGNORE <mask> <types..> <options..> 06:28PM [DECTS()] mask - host mask to ignore, eg: *!*@*.aol.com 06:28PM [DECTS()] types - types of data to ignore, one or all of: 06:28PM [DECTS()] PRIV, CHAN, NOTI, CTCP, DCC, INVI, ALL 06:28PM [DECTS()] options - NOSAVE, QUIET 06:28PM [DECTS()] Usage: IGNORE <mask> <types..> <options..> 06:28PM [DECTS()] mask - host mask to ignore, eg: *!*@*.aol.com 06:28PM [DECTS()] types - types of data to ignore, one or all of: 06:28PM [DECTS()] PRIV, CHAN, NOTI, CTCP, DCC, INVI, ALL 06:28PM [DECTS()] options - NOSAVE, QUIET 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets mode +m #TheListeningBrook 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets mode -i #TheListeningBrook 06:28PM [DECTS()] * Channel #TheListeningBrook modes: +mntr 06:28PM [DECTS()] * Channel #TheListeningBrook created on Thu Mar 24 15:09:23 2011 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets channel limit to 10 06:28PM [DECTS()] * Channel #TheListeningBrook modes: +mntrl 10 06:28PM [DECTS()] * Channel #TheListeningBrook created on Thu Mar 24 15:09:23 2011 06:28PM [DECTS()] * ChiefTenBeers (~blatmap@prick.stag.stonerwitch) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets ban on *!*@*.stag.stonerwitch 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS has kicked ChiefTenBeers from #TheListeningBrook (Prior Harassment) 06:28PM [DECTS()] * Polybun (~prollyfun@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:28PM [DECTS()] * #TheListeningBrook Banlist: Thu Mar 24 17:57:34 *!*@*.stag.stonerwitch DECTS 06:28PM [DECTS()] * #TheListeningBrook Banlist: Thu Mar 24 17:19:32 *!*@baby.fuck DECTS 06:28PM [DECTS()] * #TheListeningBrook Banlist: Thu Mar 24 17:19:07 *!*prollyfun@*.fuck DECTS 06:28PM [DECTS()] * #TheListeningBrook Banlist: Thu Mar 24 17:17:28 *!*polybun@*.fuck DECTS 06:28PM [DECTS()] * #TheListeningBrook Banlist: Thu Mar 24 17:16:16 *!*blatmap@*.fuck DECTS 06:28PM [DECTS()] * #TheListeningBrook :End of Channel Ban List 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets ban on *!*prollyfun@*.hsd1.or.comcast.net 06:28PM [DECTS()] * DECTS has kicked Polybun from #TheListeningBrook (Evading moderation actions) 06:28PM [DECTS()] * Polyhead (~Polybun@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:29PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets ban on *!*Polybun@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net 06:29PM [DECTS()] * DECTS has kicked Polyhead from #TheListeningBrook (DECTS) 06:29PM [DECTS()] * Polyhead (~toast@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:29PM [DECTS()] * DECTS obliterates Polyhead [Simba] Your bans are not very well constructed. 06:29PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets ban on *!*toast@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast 06:29PM [DECTS()] I guess that 'obliterates' should have been 'fried'.... 06:29PM [DECTS()] Can you suggest anything better? [Simba] The majority of them include the username portion (the part between ! and @), which is easy for him to change. Just use an asterisk there. Using chanserv's akick function and setting the channel to +R makes it a bit more effort for him to get around the bans. 06:31PM [DECTS()] Well, he's using multiple hostnames. [Simba] Not really. 06:32PM [DECTS()] Yeah, he is. 06:32PM [DECTS()] How I see it anyways. [Simba] He's using the vanity hostname that he was given and his own hostname. [Simba] I'm looking at the same log you are. 06:32PM [DECTS()] Notice this: 06:32PM [DECTS()] * Polyhead (~Polybun@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:32PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets ban on *!*Polybun@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net 06:32PM [DECTS()] * DECTS has kicked Polyhead from #TheListeningBrook (DECTS) 06:32PM [DECTS()] * Polyhead (~toast@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:32PM [DECTS()] * DECTS obliterates Polyhead 06:32PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets ban on *!*toast@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net 06:32PM [DECTS()] * DECTS has kicked Polyhead from #TheListeningBrook (DECTS) 06:32PM [DECTS()] * Polyhead (~fragme@FUR-23E30710.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:32PM [DECTS()] * DECTS sets ban on *!*@*.hsd1.or.comcast.net 06:33PM [DECTS()] * DECTS has kicked Polyhead from #TheListeningBrook (Seriously now? You have nothing better to do?) 06:33PM [DECTS()] * Polyhead (ac@259C45A4.194C4805.201256F9.IP) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:33PM [DECTS()] >Polyhead< CTCP VERSION 06:33PM [DECTS()] -Polyhead- VERSION CGI:IRC 0.5.10 (2011/02/07) - http://cgiirc.sf.net/ 06:33PM [DECTS()] <DECTS> Honestly? 06:33PM [DECTS()] * ChiefTenBeers (ac@16F683A5.3AEFDD.DA279687.IP) has joined #TheListeningBrook 06:33PM [DECTS()] The hostnmes. 06:33PM [DECTS()] They're different. [Simba] Only one of them is. [Simba] Apparently sf.net has an open CGI:IRC that people can use. --yeah, I interpreted his paste spew a little wrong here-- 06:33PM * DECTS shrugs 06:33PM [DECTS()] He's a moron, anyways. 06:34PM [DECTS()] Wasting his life, "trying to fix mine". 06:34PM [DECTS()] Oh, so that's what happens if I leave him. Ping timeout. 06:34PM [DECTS()] May his internet connection rot for all I care. 06:35PM [DECTS()] And so far you haven't told me anything. [Simba] /chanserv akick #thelisteningbrook add polybun [Simba] I told you plenty. [Simba] /mode #thelisteningbrook +R [Simba] I mean... I told you those two things already without spelling out the actual commands, and now you have the actual commands. [Simba] You figured out the +b *!*@*.hsd1.or.comcast.net on your own. 06:36PM [DECTS()] I'm just using XChat. [Simba] Ok... That's irrelevant. [Simba] This is all server side stuff [Simba] And XChat has a very nice, granular ignore feature. 06:37PM [DECTS()] But it breaks. 06:52PM [DECTS()] Now, you do realise that people like that are the equivilent of internet terrorists? 06:54PM [DECTS()] He just went into #furrycoffeeshop - a kind PG level place, disturbing everyone. [Simba] People like that are the equivalent of people with unconventional senses of humor. "Internet Terrorists" are the ones who crack into SSL Certificate Authorities and issue bogus certs for high profile sites, like google.com, yahoo.com, bankofamerica.com, etc, then use them to gather financial information for people, then do actual harm to society, as a whole, or individuals livelyhood. 07:02PM [DECTS()] Fine, IRC terrorist. [Simba] People who go around and exercise their unconventional sense of humor are just people... going around... and being funny, 07:03PM [DECTS()] Technically, what he's doing is a legal criminal offense. [Simba] Technically, no. Absolutely not. 07:03PM [DECTS()] It is. [Simba] In fact, that's completely incorrect. 07:03PM [DECTS()] You can be charged with harassment. [Simba] Absolutely not. 07:04PM [DECTS()] Why? [Simba] Because that doesn't even come close to the legal definition of harrassment. 07:05PM [DECTS()] It could. [Simba] Not even in the slightest. 07:07PM [DECTS()] Why do you say that? [Simba] Umm... because it's true. 07:07PM [DECTS()] What is the definition of harassment? [Simba] Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you, if you'll go to bed with me") [Simba] And by "discrimination", we're talking about in conjunction with consideration for employment or access to certain functions. 07:14PM [DECTS()] That wasn't my question. [Simba] That's the only time when anything "legal" comes about with regards to "harrassment". 07:16PM [DECTS()] You're saying harassment is discrimination? [Simba] Ugh. No. [Simba] Jesus... You really are as dense as Polybun was making you out to be. 07:16PM [DECTS()] Since when do I care for what he says? 07:17PM [DECTS()] And besides, you didn't answer my question. 07:17PM [DECTS()] I ask about harassment, and you tell me about discrimination. [Simba] No, I tell you about harrassment and how it is treated with regards to a legal sense. [Simba] Included in those regards was discrimination. [Simba] Among others. [Simba] And I was just clarifying what "discrimination" was. [Simba] The rest of it had nothing to do with discrimination. 07:18PM [DECTS()] Clarify "harassment" [Simba] fuckin'... I DID [Simba] jesus christ 07:18PM [DECTS()] Just answer the question. [Simba] I DID 07:19PM [DECTS()] Not clearly enough. 07:19PM [DECTS()] Harassment is: [Simba] You want the English definition of Harrassment, or the legal one. [Simba] 'cause I already gave you the legal one. 07:20PM [DECTS()] Both. [Simba] I don't feel the need to define it in an English sense, since that version doesn't matter in this context. [Simba] You started spouting off that it was somehow illegal, and I told you it isn't. 07:21PM [DECTS()] Honestly, people are far easier to work with when you can throw them against a pickup truck. 07:23PM [DECTS()] Can you simply tell me what I ask? [Simba] That's what Google and Wikipedia are for. 07:23PM [DECTS()] You tell me. [Simba] No. 07:23PM [DECTS()] Why? [Simba] i'm not your fuckin' research assistant. [Simba] I'm busy. [Simba] I'm at work. [Simba] I don't need this shit. 07:23PM [DECTS()] You're scared that I might be right? 07:24PM [DECTS()] So far, that's what I'm seeing. Please prove me wrong. [Simba] Right about what? What the english definition of harrassment is? [Simba] If you want to know that, you can google it. 07:24PM [DECTS()] I know it. I work with people who are much worse. 07:24PM [DECTS()] You need to admit it tho. [Simba] You're absolutely incorrect. Until you can prove that you are correct and that I'm incorrect, you're the one who needs to bare the burden of proof, not me. 07:25PM [DECTS()] Let's put it this way. If you don't know, and you're just covering it up, tell me. 07:25PM [DECTS()] I leave you alone. [Simba] Covering what up? The English definition of harrassment? I made no attempt to cover that up. 07:25PM [DECTS()] I never saw you define it. [Simba] I don't NEED to define it when it's at merriam-webster.com and Wikipedia.com and wherever else. [Simba] Bcause it's IRRELEVANT to this conversation. 07:26PM * DECTS facepaws 07:32PM [DECTS()] Are you talking with Poly right now? [Simba] No 07:32PM [DECTS()] Really? [Simba] really truly 07:32PM [DECTS()] Just got two PMs. 07:35PM [DECTS()] Admins here definately are on my caution list. They don't respect me, and I absolutely hate it. 07:35PM [DECTS()] I'm very close to terminating all contact to this server. [Simba] Admins don't respect whiners here. That's correct. 07:36PM [DECTS()] Am I whining? [Simba] We encourage you to deal with your own problems rather than bringing them to us. 07:36PM [DECTS()] Well, I do what I can, [Simba] Otherwise, we're perfectly happy to help. 07:36PM [DECTS()] but you know more about the server than me, so I need help. [Simba] And everyone gets the same level of respect. [Simba] Ok 07:36PM [DECTS()] Any other server, I can manage easily. 07:41PM [DECTS()] "NightGoat> btw, i've been fucking simba for like 7 years now... so....I woudln't count on too much help from him ... and he owns the network." Care to explain? Just got this. [Simba] He makes stuff up sometimes, to get under your skin. [Simba] If you have a thick skin, you'd just ignore it. 07:43PM [DECTS()] I ignore it. 07:43PM [DECTS()] And I can do so even better, by leaving. 07:43PM [DECTS()] Which I'm going to do. [Simba] ok
Meanwhile, I silently added any proxies that Polybun was using to the AnthroChat RBL