07:24PM <Ka:#anthrochat> Tell me what's up with Tenk?
07:25PM <Wag:#anthrochat> What's the deal with Tenk?
07:54PM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> 07:20:58°pm (Ka) Why are you messing with Tenk?
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08:47PM <Tenk:#anthrochat> could someone tell me why not only my password isn't working but I keep getting killed by FastEddie ?
08:48PM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Tenk, because you got pwned like a bitch.
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<Simba:#anthrochat> Tenk:  Use a different nickname.
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08:51PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> well what would you call it Polybun?
08:52PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> some asshat stole my password and is using it to constantly DC me
08:52PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> HOW did I ask for trouble?
08:52PM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Tenk|beinggriefed, you registed it, but neve rused it
08:52PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> I've been sitting on this server minding my own buisness for months
08:52PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> Polybun, like hell, I always logged in
08:52PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> EVERY TIME I got on
08:52PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> it was set to autoidentify
08:53PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> nope
08:53PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> haven't even talked on anthrochat short of a few random PMs in months
08:53PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> like hell I did Polybun, don't take me for an idiot
08:53PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> I always identified
08:54PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> wow, Polybun, you're a special kinda slow
08:54PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> the only thing I did was sit ina server where the admins give out peoples passwords for the lulz
08:54PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> hw else would he have gotten into my nick?
08:54PM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Tenk|beinggriefed, well they don't give them out
08:55PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> I mean, godamn, I've had this nick for years and I've been set t autoidentify for just as long
08:56PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat>  it here mostly idle admittedly, but suddenly, someone not only changed my nick's password but is using it to make me DC
08:56PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> yes, yes I did Polybun 
<Simba:#anthrochat> For the entirety of the year of 2010, so far, the only IDENTIFY command sent to services for nickname "Tenk" was when the password failed on October 25 at 18:36:57.  Prior to that, the only thing in the log for user "Tenk" was when the nickname was joined to the group of "Bob", on October 23rd.
08:57PM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Tenk|beinggriefed, there's your answer stupid.
08:57PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> oh just shut it Polybun, it's also obvious that the bastard only took the nick to grief me, hmm? can I have it back now?
08:58PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> I don't know why my auto-ident was wrong -.-
08:58PM <Tenk|beinggriefed:#anthrochat> thank you FastEddie 
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[anthrochat]  *** Tenk|BeingGriefed (~Tenk@50.10.101.44) did a /whois on you.
09:00PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] can I have my Nick back?
[Simba] I don't have its password
09:01PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] you could just ban fasteddie from the server and I'd wait for it to become free again -.-
[Simba] I can't.  It's against the rules.
09:01PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I mean, it's kind of apparent he only took the nick to grief me
09:01PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] so, it's against the rules to remove trolls?
[Simba] Yeah
09:01PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] wow, what a shitty server
[Simba] Trolls are people too.
[Simba] They have just as much right to send data through the server as anyone else.
[Simba] http://www.anthrochat.net/mission.txt
09:04PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] wow, no wonder y'all are the laughing stock of every furry community I'm a part of
09:04PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I was letting it slide, but damn
[Simba] If by laughing stock, you mean most awesomely revered, you're correct.
09:05PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] XD lawl
[Simba] Only the lame and unintelligent ridicule freedom of speech.
09:05PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I can't find a sinlgle furry community outside of anthrochat that thinks it's anything other then a piule of shit where all the trolls and idiots comes to roost
09:05PM <Polybun:#anthrochat> <Tenk|BeingGriefed> well, a troll stole my nick, and the server admin just laugh about it
[Simba] You're hanging out with horrible, terrible people, then.
09:06PM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Tenk|BeingGriefed, gtfo
09:06PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] only the lame and unintelligent think griefing peope by constantly killing their nicks is free speech
09:06PM <Tenk|BeingGriefed:#anthrochat> nah, just wasn't muc tying me here
09:06PM <Tenk|BeingGriefed:#anthrochat> I was giving it the shadow of the doubt, but y'all proved me wrong
09:06PM * >Tenk|BeingGriefed #anthrochat goes to post on furnet and lulz at the idiots
[Simba] Well, that's free expression, but it's similar.  You have the ability to change to a different nickname, register it, and move on, but instead, you're choosing to throw a shitfit about it.
[Simba] And then get insulting.
09:07PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] what, because someone is griefing me? hell yeah
09:07PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] that is NOT freedom of speech
09:07PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] thats y and your little fuckbuddies satisfying your needs to feel "big"
[Simba] It's also freedom of "first come first served".  The first person to register the nickname "Tenk" within the last 365 days was FastEddie.  As far as I'm concerned, it's his.
[Simba] I'm not sure what you mean by "fuckbuddies" in that context.
09:08PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] as in, you love each other's asses, not a hard concept to grasp
[Simba] Yes, but that's not an accurate statement.
[Simba] I've never seen, nor care to see, nor care to touch, nor care to love their asses.
09:09PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] neither is he came first
09:09PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I registered the nick first
[Simba] Not according to the logs, you didn't.
[Simba] After 60 days of not being identified, it drops.
09:09PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] so, who owned the nick before fasteddie?
[Simba] Nobody for the past 365 days.
09:10PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] hahaha, so your reasoning is partial towards your fuckbuddy
[Simba] There you go using that completely inaccurate term again.
09:10PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] because that nature of unatural adoration of a common troll could only come from you getting some from said troll
09:11PM <Tenk|BeingGriefed:#anthrochat> hey, if I knew how to flood FastEddie so hard  couldn't log on for so long as I was on the server, I'd do it myself
[Simba] I was completely uninvolved until you came asking me to facilitate stealing a nickname from him.
09:11PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] he stole a nickname from me
[Simba] And now you're somehow saying that I have unnatural adoration of him?
[Simba] No, you are trying to get me to steal it from him.  There's no proof that you ever had it in the past.
09:12PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] it does not matter if my identify was incorrect, the identify itself is proof that I still wished to use the nick
09:12PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] there is no way you can justify what he did other then he's giving you some and you're protecting him
[Simba] No it isn't.  I can't prove that you ever had it.
09:12PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] okay, let me point out, quite clearly, you said yourself already I was using the password before he was
09:13PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] if you look farther back then a year you'll see I logged onto it normally
[Simba] 60 days of inactivity, and the name is up for grabs.  He grabbed it.
[Simba] That's just how it works.
09:13PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] it was NEVER inactive
09:13PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] even if I wasn't logged in I always had the nick
[Simba] According to the logs, it was inactive.
09:14PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] you cannot pretend to justify bullshit with more bullshit
[Simba] That's all I have to go by.
09:14PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] it doesn't work like that
[Simba] This is not bullshit.  This is the only evidence that I have.
09:14PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I can post EVERY SINGLE LOG I HAVE on here with me using the nick
09:14PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] from the beginning of that time frame
[Simba] Your logs could be doctored.
09:14PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] in FOUR channels
09:14PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] yes, a whole years worth of logs doctored on the spot
09:14PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] please just quit the bulshit already, you and I both know you're just favoring te godamn troll
09:15PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] all my logs, from 4 channels, at least a years worth
[Simba] Some of you crazy furries are just OCD enough to do that.
09:15PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] dated and tiestamped
09:15PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] proving me logged on to the server and the godamn nick
[Simba] They could just be Furnet logs or something.
09:15PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] like hell
09:16PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I even have the logs from the server cnnection
09:16PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] yes, thats ight, I LOG EVERYTHING
09:17PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] the simple fact of the matter is, not only do I have proof, you damn well know that nick was mine
09:17PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] the only reason for you to protect eddie, is because you're laughing just as much as he is
[Simba] I'm not favoring anyone.  I'm favoring the system and the rule for the admins.  The rule is:  "Don't use admin-only tools to resolve interpersonal conflicts between users and channels."  The system has all of the necessary constraints to allow users to govern their own interpersonal interactions.  We are not to be involved.
09:18PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and yes, as much as you delusions think otherwise, most of the community thinks this shithole is just that, a shithole.
[Simba] Nobody I know thinks that, so you must be incorrect.
09:18PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] this isn't something that user/user interaction can handle
09:18PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I can't ban him from my nick
[Simba] Yes it is.  You change your nickname, register it, make sure that you don't forget to identify, and your problem is completely solved.
09:18PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] wow "all my anthrochatfrends think anthrochat rocks so it must"
[Simba] As far as I'm concerned, I don't care what other people think.  If they think that administrative hand-holding is the way to go, they're right, this network is not for them.
09:19PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] "all the trolls I cowtow to think I'm th best cause I let them mess with actual chatters who actually want freedom of speech, so I rock"
[Simba] Now you're not even making sense.
09:20PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] your reasoning is, from what I've seen
09:20PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] you think anthrochat is the best cause people on the server say o
[Simba] Those are the only ones who matter.
09:20PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] further, the only people I've seen talk in the main channel were 2 trolls, you and wog
[Simba] "main channel"?  This network doesn't have a "main channel".
[Simba] Everything is equal.
09:20PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] which leads me to believe you are being told the server is the best by a few trolls and in return they can fuck with anyone who actually cares about free speech
09:21PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] fine then, #anthrochat
[Simba] That's just the help channel.
09:21PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] so?
09:21PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] my point stands
09:21PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I've nly seen yo converse with trolls
[Simba] The only people who matter in there are those who have ops or more.
09:21PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and why do you have a help channel if your help consts of point and laugh?
[Simba] I'm not pointing and laughing.  I've explained exactly how you fix your problem.  You're refusing the solution.
[Simba] I can't help that.
[Simba] Also, I never pointed and laughed.
09:22PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] you're not fixing the problem
[Simba] In fact, I did.
[Simba] I told you to change your nickname, and now you're not being ghosted.
[Simba] That fixed the problem.
09:22PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] saying your fixing the problem is like putting duct tape over a leaking oil line and calling that problem fixed
09:23PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I mean, settign aside the fact that he essentially stole my identity and damages my actual chances to free speech because now I'm forced into a grey area where anyone could be anyone at ay time. it's obvious he did it as an attack on teh goers of your server
09:23PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and it's likely he will keep doing so for a long time
[Simba] Be more careful.
09:24PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] how many more people will he have to kick out of the server by removing their identity? I'm sure eventually this server will devolve into you, nd a few spoofing trolls
09:24PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] because you have no idea how to run a channel, let alone a server
09:24PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] suprised it lasted this long honestly
[Simba] Only the ones who are too lazy to protect their identity, which is a paltry few.
09:25PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] hah, I protected my identity
[Simba] Obviously, you didn't.
[Simba] Otherwise, he wouldn't have "stolen" it.
09:25PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and one paltry error, and the people who are actually supposed to help me protect my identity pointed and laughed
09:25PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] I'm sure my autoident was off by ONE letter
[Simba] No, I pointed at the /nick command, the /nickserv register command   and told you to fix your own problem.
09:26PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] like hell thats going to fix the problem
09:26PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] it just means he succeeds and you further prove the server worthless
[Simba] Why would.n
[Simba] Why wouldn't it?
[Simba] Incorrect.
[Simba] Totatlly incorrect.
09:26PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] because, rewarding a troll for being a troll
09:26PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] he'll troll more people
[Simba] I'm not providing any rewards.
09:26PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and drive away more people
[Simba] I didn't reward him in any way.
09:26PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] you just essentially said to his face "it's fine to steal nicks, have a few more"
[Simba] He.  didn't.  steal.  it.
09:27PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] YES HE DID
09:27PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] he has no plans to use it
[Simba] Fine, then.  Let it drop.
09:27PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] my intent to remain it's owner was not only proven but clear
09:27PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] he even went so far as to admit he just wants the nick to mess with me
[Simba] What he does with the nickname that was rightfully registered by him is his business.  If he chooses to use it to "mess" with someone, that's his choice, not mine.
09:28PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] hell even if I got it back I dun wanna stick around on a server thats the equivalent of a cesspool
[Simba] That's your choice.
09:28PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and yes, it is your choice
09:28PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] by choosing not to act, you let him do as he wishes
[Simba] Exactly
09:29PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and eventually, someone, somehow, will fuck you over like this
09:29PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and then where will your neutrality be?
[Simba] I'm not the police.  I'm not a judge/jury.  I'm just a guy who makes sure that the ircd is running and connected to the other ones.  That's it.  I have no other responsibilities.  It's a courtesy that I'm even here explaining how the world works to you.
09:30PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] except you're explaining the exact opposite of how the world works
[Simba] I'm man enough to admit that I made a mistake and just move on.  It's not being "fucked over".  It's a freakin' IRC nickname, for Christ's sake.  This Internet is way less serious business than you're making it.
09:30PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] hell, you're working in clear contradiction of your wish for free speech
09:30PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] by allowing him what he wants, you actually impede free speech
09:31PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] my nick is as much my identity as my real name
[Simba] No it's not.
09:31PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] people know me by that name so it's an issue when someone can spoof it and do damage to my relationships
09:31PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] yes, yes it is
[Simba] It's just an IRC nickname.  There's no perception of ownership nor is there any guarantee of such.
09:31PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] but there is
09:31PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] it's not just an irc nickname
09:32PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] it is something that is attached to me in the real world, on IRC, on the net proper
09:32PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] and someone spoofing that name can do damage to me
[Simba] And all of this doesn't matter.  It's his nickname, not yours.
09:32PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] you have a nice generic name an a ncie shitty attitude
09:32PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] noones gonna bother spoofing you
09:33PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] it's my nickname and you only say that, because, as I said, an unatural affection for that troll
09:33PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] or maybe it's trolls in generl
[Simba] You're so full of shit.
[Simba] srsly
09:33PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] best line I've heard all day, describes it s well
09:33PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] [21:31] <Majora> furnet consists largely of misfits. anthrochat is full of furnet's misfits. :B
09:33PM [Tenk|BeingGriefed()] ciao, idiot, bet youmade this place cause you got banned for trolling furnet ;3
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[Simba] Yes, because people such as AnthroCon's director of programming and MFF's director of programming and so on are "misfits"
Tenk|BeingGriefed: No such nick/channel