-:- Terrykatt [~Terrykatt@FUR-E04BB75A.res.bhn.net] has joined #anthrochat 10:58PM <Terrykatt:#anthrochat> Meowlos 10:58PM <Terrykatt:#anthrochat> Simba you on? 11:01PM <Terrykatt:#anthrochat> How do I register my nick, I forgot after 8years 11:02PM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> just msg me your info 11:02PM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> i'll do it for you 11:04PM <Terrykatt:#anthrochat> I just need to know the steps or a help link 11:04PM <Terrykatt:#anthrochat> The website doesn't have a FAQ 11:04PM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> All the information you need is on the site you fucking moron -:- Terrykatt [~Terrykatt@FUR-E04BB75A.res.bhn.net] has left #anthrochat [Leaving] 12:11AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> hahaha 12:11AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> these fucking idiots 12:11AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> there is clearly an faq -:- Blort [~Blort@FUR-A0603B19.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #anthrochat -:- SignOff Blort: #anthrochat,#furry (Quit: Ex-Chat) -:- Pickledawg [~Pickledaw@Bust.Up.Tune.Down.Sabb.Off] has joined #anthrochat -:- SignOff Pickledawg: #anthrochat,#Atrium (Quit: Leaving) <Simba:#anthrochat> We need to keep the civility level a bit higher in here. If the belligerence continues, I'll need to remove you. Badger people in #Atrium all you want, though. 03:51AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> go fuck yourself 03:52AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> and 03:52AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> who bitched and moaned this time? :D <Simba:#anthrochat> The other admins 03:52AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> fuck em' 03:54AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> seriously man. <Simba:#anthrochat> Yep. srsly. 03:54AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> look at these fucking people. 03:54AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> You point them at the help system, and all they do is complain even more. 03:54AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I proved that yesterday. 03:54AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Being nice acompishes nothing. 03:55AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> you have to put these people in their place, and let them know just how ignorant they really are before they will even lift a finger for themselves. 03:55AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> You have to offend them into rising up to get them to do anything. <Simba:#anthrochat> They come to the help channel, seeking help. Belligerence is not perceived as a form of help regardless of whether or not it contains the answers. 03:55AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> You had a guy in here today claiming there was no faq 03:55AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> That's their own problem, not yours simba. 03:55AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> help can come with beligerance. 03:55AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> How do you think I learned to properly fire a rifle. <Simba:#anthrochat> The site doesn't have a specifically designated FAQ section 03:56AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> let me tell you, positive re-enforcement wasn't it. 03:56AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I specifically being told "private, if you don't hit the paper next round I'm shoving this rifle up your ass." 03:57AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> to which I replied "drill seargent, the front sight tower is bent, you can actually see it. 03:57AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> he then took a look down my rifle, pulled the magazine, slammed it to the ground, and got me a rifle that wasn't all fucked up :D 03:58AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> My point here is, molly coddling people, and kissing their asses only re-enforces this ideal that many of these morons have that "furries always get along with eachother." 03:58AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> How many times have you heard "a real furry would never treat someone like that, it's just a troll." 03:59AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> It's a bitter pill, and we all need to swallow hard. <Simba:#anthrochat> It doesn't have to be 03:59AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> treating people nicely when they do stupid things accomplishes nothing. <Simba:#anthrochat> It's only that way because you're making it that way. This isn't boot camp. 03:59AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> You can't say my methods don't motivate people. 03:59AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> They get pissed off, and are motivated to either leave, or learn. <Simba:#anthrochat> Yeah, they motivate people to leave, not come back, and then tell all their acquaintances that AnthroChat is full of assholes. 04:00AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> They also learn the valuable lesson that, not everyone is going to communicate the same way they do, or in a way they expect. 04:00AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Furthmore, if you don't have an open mind, you belong elsewhere. 04:00AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> That happens to be true, it is full of assholes. 04:01AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Most of them come here asking for help without even doing any basic research into irc on their own 04:01AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> that makes them an asshole. 04:01AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I've never once had to ask such questions. 04:01AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I didn't because there is plenty of information out there on using IRC 04:02AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Let the crying admins take their boxen and run Simba. <Simba:#anthrochat> uh.. no 04:03AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> You're only starting down the same slope that turned furnet into a joke. 04:03AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> your allowing others to cloud your vision. <Simba:#anthrochat> No, there's a very clear line here. 04:03AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> There is, and it's that now you are more concerned with how things are being said, than what is being said. <Simba:#anthrochat> Nothing I'm doing or would be doing involves using commands that only server admins have access to in order to deal with the "problem". It's all level playing field in terms of global network administration goes. <Simba:#anthrochat> That's the only difference between AnthroChat and Furnet. 04:05AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> So far, but I wonder how long it'll stay that way once you begin caring of the complaints that persons were not helped the way those persons think they should be helped. 04:05AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Im' sure you understand where i'm coming from when I find fault when people care more about how something is said, than what is said. <Simba:#anthrochat> I understand completely. It's just now how we want our help channel to be ran. 04:06AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Then I suppose the ban evasion contest begins. <Simba:#anthrochat> Slippery slope arguments are only so valid. <Simba:#anthrochat> Yep 04:07AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> The other solution of course is to attack them via pm 04:07AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> rather than provide help to them in anyway, just outright attack <Simba:#anthrochat> You have to know about them 04:08AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> That won't be a problem <Simba:#anthrochat> It's a physical impossiblity. It sure will be a problem. :p 04:09AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I don't mean physicaly attack 04:10AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> ... although most of them should be strangled <Simba:#anthrochat> I'm talking about knowing that they exist. 04:10AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I've said it before, I'll say it again, there isn't a single channel I'm not in. <Simba:#anthrochat> If you're not in here, you can't see that they're asking perfectly valid questions that should be answered in the way that we deem appropriate since, well, it's our channel and our network. <Simba:#anthrochat> There are many channels that you're not in. 04:11AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Fewer than you think <Simba:#anthrochat> In fact, you're only in 4 channels. 04:12AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> If that's what you wish to beleive <Simba:#anthrochat> These are the facts. This is what we know. Now... On to the specifics... 04:13AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> The only way you could possibly keep me out of here is to instate a no idling rule. 04:13AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> That's the only way. 04:13AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> and even then you would have to actively enforce that, well, I suppose you could script that now that I think about it. 04:14AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> But that's really the only way. <Simba:#anthrochat> Not a problem 04:17AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> sorry hand full :P 04:17AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> servicing the transport mech on a Kodak Retina Reflex IV 04:17AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I don't know if a non idle rule is really much of help. 04:17AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> You end up pissing users, newbs see such rules as "stupid and pointless." 04:18AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> I love idling :( 04:20AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> heh, Simba, you aren't geniunly annoyed with us are you? 04:20AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> Anthrochat is 50% idlers 04:20AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> You'd just kick everyone 04:21AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> he means just this channel 04:21AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> oh 04:21AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> Otherwise I just use one of my alteregos on this network in this channel. 04:21AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> not thinking atm, just woek up 04:21AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> woke <Simba:#anthrochat> You can only have a finite number of alteregos. 04:22AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> That's true <Simba:#anthrochat> Even if it's 2^32 of them. :) 04:22AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> ..... couldn't, be, that's beyond 32bit space 04:22AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> heh 04:22AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> i love that you put it that way though :D 04:23AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> much fewer options than I use to have, that's for sure. <Simba:#anthrochat> I'm not "annoyed", no. I get your humor and I get your logic. It's unconventional and off-putting to the majority of everyone else on the planet and just not how the staff would have our guests treated when they come looking for help in the network's designated help channel. 04:30AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> We have to use this network as well, we have to deal with the morons too. 04:30AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I feel it's best to send them where they belong. <Simba:#anthrochat> And they can be... once they get out on the network and stumble across "real" channels. 04:34AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I suppose running them off at htis point cuts into the deposints in /drama 04:34AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> deposits. 04:35AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I do love seeing "I went into a channel and they were mean :( :( :( :(" type emails <Simba:#anthrochat> Someone found the "Furnet Situation" article that I wrote back when I split from Furnet and created AnthroChat. It has some great examples of that stuff. 04:36AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> haha 04:36AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> I will say this in our defence, ever since we started doing our thing in this channel, you haven't gotten an email like that. <Simba:#anthrochat> Well, we did, which is what prompted the response from some of the other admins. 04:38AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> lol link <Simba:#anthrochat> http://lists.anthrochat.net/pipermail/admins/2011-February/001331.html 04:40AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> haha pickledawg gets some credit lol 04:40AM <FastEddie:#anthrochat> he's gonna get a kick a\outta that 04:41AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> see 04:41AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> he's mad that we ignored him even 04:41AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> we stopped and just left him alone 04:41AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> he didn't want out help our way, so we ignored him 04:41AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> what's wrong with that? <Simba:#anthrochat> Nothing was wrong with that. 04:43AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> so what's the issue then? 04:44AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> just tried to threaten me and run me off instead of helping me (or at the very least ignoring me) 04:44AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> he's bitching that we ignored him 04:44AM <Polybun:#anthrochat> tell his bitchy ass where to go <Simba:#anthrochat> I think he was more bitching that we ignored him, not you.